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The Art of Flow is a free public resource for creators, teachers, and supporters of the arts who are interested in flow arts and fire-dancing. It is creativity, flow arts, and fire dancing podcast that is available for mainstream distribution and provides inspiration for artists and conversations on the creative process. The podcast is available for download and listening via the following Platforms: iTunes, Spotify, SoundCloud, Google Podcasts, and here!

Explore how to connect to your body, mind, and soul by hearing conversations with movement artists, flow artists, and fire dancers and trying out their suggestions yourself.

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A big thanks to current supporters: 

BJ Burg - Co-founder of Seattle Flow Arts Collective

Duncan Roy Greenwood- Founder of Flow DNA 

Krystin Railing - Founder of The Performer's Guide

Lane Lillquist - Co-Founder of In-Cloud Counsel

Jillian Morris

Alex D.

Daniel S.

This podcast is also made possible by the movement artists who spare their time and energy to chat with us to share thoughts on life, love, learning, and flow. Without them, their experiences, and stories none of this would be possible. 

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Nov 1, 2021

Chris Garcia, aka Draco the Juggler, is a San Francisco Bay Area-born juggler. He found his passion for juggling beginning in 2003 in high school through the juggling club advised by well-known juggler and Japanese teacher Matt Hall. Chris likes to practice many forms of juggling and especially likes playing with the diabolo ("Chinese yoyo"). Through his juggling career, he's traveled to many different countries, performed at a wide variety of shows and events, and has also taught thousands of people to juggle. Outside of his juggling career, Chris is also a video game developer and coder, and finds the two separate careers have some interesting similarities through the art and psychology of play.

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