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The Art of Flow is a free public resource for creators, teachers, and supporters of the arts who are interested in flow arts and fire-dancing. It is creativity, flow arts, and fire dancing podcast that is available for mainstream distribution and provides inspiration for artists and conversations on the creative process. The podcast is available for download and listening via the following Platforms: iTunes, Spotify, SoundCloud, Google Podcasts, and here!

Explore how to connect to your body, mind, and soul by hearing conversations with movement artists, flow artists, and fire dancers and trying out their suggestions yourself.

Support the podcast to earn early access to full-length interviews, submit questions for interviewees, or get a behind-the-scenes look at the creation of the podcast, by becoming a Patron!

A big thanks to current supporters: 

BJ Burg - Co-founder of Seattle Flow Arts Collective

Duncan Roy Greenwood- Founder of Flow DNA 

Krystin Railing - Founder of The Performer's Guide

Lane Lillquist - Co-Founder of In-Cloud Counsel

Jillian Morris

Alex D.

Daniel S.

This podcast is also made possible by the movement artists who spare their time and energy to chat with us to share thoughts on life, love, learning, and flow. Without them, their experiences, and stories none of this would be possible. 

Do you have ideas for episode topics, questions, or comments? Message me on Facebook @ArtOfFlowPodcast or email me at

Nov 28, 2019

In this episode of Art of Flow, join a conversation with Isa Isaacs, a longtime teacher in the flow community, as we discuss learning through flow, how flow arts have changed throughout the years, and healing through movement.  

Isa founded Temple of Poi in 2002, a school and community supporting artists cultivating...

Nov 3, 2019

Harm reduction workshops are increasing in the festival scene, as well as in the fire and flow arts, as the value they add to communities and why they matter becomes recognized.
Listen as we chat with Dresden Blue and discuss one of the challenges facing the flow arts community, unsafe drug use and lack of proper...

Sep 11, 2019

A continuation of our conversation with Ben Drexler "DrexFactor" this episode includes discussions on how to discover our cultural identity as a flow community, some of DrexFactor's favorite artistic projects, and the story of how he became a prolific content creator. 

Ben "Drex" Drexler is one of the most popular...

Sep 3, 2019

Ben "Drex" Drexler is one of the most prolific and popular content creators in the flow arts. He is a world-renowned movement artist, dancer, and instructor who has spent the last 12 years teaching and performing the art of poi. His YouTube channel has more than six million views and more than 48,000 subscribers, and he...

May 10, 2019

Xander Paris is a rope dartist, poi spinner, triple section staff wielding, nun-chuck ninja who is a community builder and teacher from San Francisco, currently based out of Portland, Oregon. Xander's life passion is martial flow and performance arts. He grew up involved in martial arts at a Muay Thai gym, took years of...